Matt Bernstein

Oh, take me back.

Candace Owens was just like us.

And her cat is so adorable.

Anyway, shall I continue?

Or are you going to?

It is so hard to look away from because it's so stunningly normal and precious for someone who would become...

Well, so Candice was a heavy contributor to the Degree 180 blog, which someone so graciously preserved on the Internet Archive.

And I read a bunch of the articles that Candice wrote.

This blog was mostly like liberal-leaning lifestyle content for millennial women, as many blogs were.

She wrote candidly about struggling with anorexia, misogyny, and monogamy.

Taylor, I've clipped a passage from an article that Candice wrote about how monogamy is not realistic.

And would you like to take that?

Come on.

Well, we talk about grift on this podcast, and there is an enormously grifty element to Candace Owens, and I think that you're just starting to poke the bear on that one.

In another article about trans people and sex, Candace Owens wrote...

The real degree 180 was the pivot she would make after this.

Yes.

I will say, though, I mean, you know, I'm obviously not trans, but not to be like my trans friends, but like the most consistent explanation that I've heard, like from all of my trans friends and like the trans people whose work I read online and stuff.

It's like there was a period, I think, especially in like the latter portion of the 2010s, where people were really invested in like what makes someone transgender and like I need you to explain it to me.

And that's kind of where that whole like