Matt Bernstein

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So the following year in 2017, as a 27-year-old, which is how old I am now, Candace starts making her own pro-conservative, pro-Trump content on YouTube.

Her first YouTube video, which is still up, is a skit where she pretends to come out as a lesbian, and her family is like,

yay congratulations we love you and then she like comes out as conservative and like they're so shocked and horrified and like the joke is like oh it's easier to come out as queer than to come out as a as a conservative mom dad i'm a lesbian i like girls oh sweetheart we always knew

I will say like she hit the beats 10 years ago that all of the conservatives do now, which is like I'm the most victimized person in the world by being a conservative.

Like she was very early to this sort of like power inversion style of rhetoric.

Her early videos were also about how like feminism is no longer necessary because like women secretly already have all the power in society and white supremacy isn't that big of a deal, etc., etc.,

The through line of all of Candace's early YouTube videos is that the people you've been told are oppressed under like white cisheteropatriarchy, whether they're black or queer or women, they're actually the ones with all the power and they're making unfair and ridiculous demands of straight white men.

you know, like asking to, I don't know, not be hate crimed.

This is like very obviously not the case.

And like this podcast episode isn't going to be one where I like engage in good faith with every argument Candace Owens has ever made.

Because like, it's like someone's like pointing at the sky and being like, the sky is orange.

And I'm like, well, the sky is blue.

And it's like, what argument are we getting?

It's just not true.