Matt Britton

And remember, CrowdTap was never, it was funded with an agency.

It wasn't built by engineering.

anyway, which probably is when some of the warts eventually came out.

So yes, that did have a reason why.

And sometimes you raise debt financing versus equity financing, not so much because you can't raise equity financing, but because you can't at the right valuation.

And with a business that has eight-figure meaningful revenue, you have the cash flow that you can pay it back, which we did.

We also knew we had a business model that we could turn to profitability anytime if we ever needed to.

So that's really why we did it.

Now we're in a position though, where we're, we're spinning off essentially a cashflow positive agency model, uh, with crowd tap.

And we have really a rapidly growing pure play SAS model that you're going to hear a lot about in 2018.

Oh, Susie already launched.

Susie's already launched.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Yep.

As Susie.com.

Um, we've launched, we've kind of been, we haven't done a major launch yet.

Um, it's kind of been a beta launch if you will.

Um, but we already have an upwards of 75 customers on it.

It's AskSusie.com.