Matt Damon

The same with Delta Force guys.

Like this idea that this like outwardly brash, tough guy, usually that kind of machismo and –

That's bullshit.

You're using that because you're insecure.

The secure people are very calm and genuinely very friendly.

Really nice.

Yeah, that's been my experience.

Yeah, it's crazy, right?

I'll just give you my watch if you want it back.

Yeah, no, it is a fascinating thing.

It's like we have these ideas in our head, these caricatures, you know, of what a tough man is, what a good woman is, what this is, what that is.

And I think one of the beautiful things about film when a film is really good is you see these complex characters and it sort of like reformulates in your mind like what a person actually is.

I think that was one of the most interesting things about The Sopranos.

Is that the main character, the guy that you loved, was a fucking murderer.

Who would murder his friends.

He was a complete mobster and a thug.

But you really loved him.

You cared about him.

It was so complicated.

I'm rewatching it with my daughter right now.