Matt Damon

I don't audition anymore.

So it's a different form of rejection.

I'm silently rejected.

Well, but it was, you know, as every actor knows, going into those rooms and, you know, pouring your heart out and then being told, okay, thanks.

That's a slightly soul-destroying experience.

But definitely builds resilience.

Yeah, you just become inured to it.

You just become really comfortable being rejected.

And that's been a huge help to me in my life.

You know, you don't take things so personally.

It's so standard when you're starting out and so constant that it's not, you know, you learn to let it just kind of roll off your shoulders and kind of get on with it.

It's also, you know, a great lesson in not...

not being afraid of failure, which I know that's like every commencement speech, but it is really true.

And it is really a big part of Gary's, one of the things that attracted me to him, the first thing he wanted to talk about were all the ways in which he'd failed.

Because

Those failures are really, that's how you, you know, you gain the hard-earned wisdom to kind of do things better and more efficiently.

And if we were afraid of, if we were stuck to an idea that it had to be one way or another, and we didn't have the flexibility to kind of go where the work took us, we'd be in a really different place.

Sure.

Either of you or both of you.

I'll give you a little one, just a household one.