Matt Fradd

I mean-

marriage thing, the LGBTQ stuff.

Like right now for many people, they go, whoa, that seems insane.

Or like, whoa, two dudes getting married.

Well, how was that ever a thing?

But if you lived during those decisions, man, the pressure was so strong.

I remember seeing adverts like, don't be on the wrong side of history.

Like, I don't want to be, I don't want to, I want to be on the in crowd, you know?

And then the new atheism thing, that was just so pervasive.

I don't know if a lot of younger people appreciate how pervasive that was.

You just felt like an idiot.

Dawkins was telling us outright that we were abusing our children if we taught them about Christianity.

And who the hell wants to be an abuser of children?

And again, when that stuff's in the air, unless you're intelligent,

Like there are people like, I'm sure like yourself or other people I've had on the show, like Dr. Ed Fazer, you know, like who was a philosopher.

So when like the new atheists came in, he's like, he actually said the Dawkins wouldn't know metaphysics from Metamucil.

And he said that during the height of it, you know, and it's just, anyway, it's, it's bizarre, but here's my point.

It feels like the fog of the new atheism has rolled on by and

And I'm looking around the landscape, and I see thoughtful, intelligent people who have what feel like or seem to be coherent, compelling even, arguments against the existence of God and Christianity.

But they're not blowhards.