Matt Fradd

Yeah.

Yeah, it's... But if atheism can just mean agnosticism, then it's very easy to win because you get to smash down things and have nothing to defend.

Yeah, and then the genetic fallacy, right, can often be applied to people like us.

But there is something to be said about, well, my choices are there being a world that has meaning and life after death and purpose or none of that.

So, yeah, like I'll bite the bullet and admit that I am.

I would like to I would like to think that my life has purpose and that there is something good awaiting me after death.

So yes, you're right, congratulations.

That is part of what I'm factoring in here.

But again, there's still this plank, and even if it's not perfect, it's something.

So why would I, what are you asking me to do?

Exactly.

But then again, as you know, the genetic fallacy cuts both ways.

It's like, well, I can come up with reasons why you want to believe that.

What would your advice be to someone who says, listen, Mike, I really want to believe in God, but I'm looking at the arguments for and against and for the life of me, I can't decide and I feel paralyzed.

And I also think that whatever conclusion I might arrive at,

There's someone out there who could argue me under the table, so I don't feel safe to actually commit to anything.

But I want to, believe me, I want to, but I just, I can't.

So I've got God up on the chalkboard and he's been there for years.

What do I do?

Is the point in saying that, that like, okay, if God doesn't exist, you can still come.