Matt Gorniak

We decided that, hey, let's cuddle, you know, basically let's create a brand new platform, Headless.

Let's reimagine all this.

So the code is written three and a half years ago on a platform, although the IP, like the math, how to do that, it's been building up for a while.

Yeah, he's our CTO, our founder, and that's kind of the marriage, right?

You need the product complexity, which we brought from us from all these years of experience, all the companies I mentioned, and this beauty, like the ability to generate picture-perfect representations at scale.

That's where the platform came together.

Yeah, so he's very much with us here.

He's a thought leader, by the way.

You should have him on a show, talk about where this whole world's going.

It's really cool, too.

I mean, he's got an angle completely from visualization, which is really fun to listen to.

220 and obviously growing.

And what we're seeing is really interesting.

Again, I'm telling you no news here.

With pandemic, this is starting to become like major FOMO because...

um yeah i think people are realizing like my product just doesn't exist and the metaverse and nfts by the way just to give you some fun buzzwords that's obviously like way out there but it's really challenging the brains and the infections to think like wait a minute if i don't if i don't have a digital product version it's better to send a real product i mean if you can experience it online place it in the r and then get it shipped that's awesome

But also in the pure digital world, let's just not even, I mean, wherever you want to go with this, but is it far, far away or just some far away?

I'm not even ready for like web 2.0, what's happening with 3.0.

So it's really fascinating to see that pressure, the FOMO, because the one that unlocks it, you know, in a space, they're getting outsized returns.

Essentially, it's what we're seeing.