Matt Gorniak

And that's kind of a fascinating place to be right now.

We're going to exit much higher than that, above 10 this year.

Yeah.

I mean, we're guys that are going to double or triple this year.

Well, it depends on big deals.

Deals are getting bigger.

So that kind of depends.

We're still in the mode where we're going to be way north of 10.

But like I said, we have a plan together.

I mean, we're happy with what we are.

But like I said, as this is accelerating, we'll see.

But the numbers aren't that big yet where a few big deals make a difference, you know?

Yeah, that was a second year.

And that's always the hardest, you know, what is the second year though?

Um, we got in there, uh, well, technically the first platform, I mean, we're, I'm sort of ignoring the, we had some early customers before the platform.

It was the second year was 2020.

Correct.

And that's kind of where we brought in and really made this, I would say, a SaaS business.

Before this, it was pre-platform.

It was essentially a bunch of cool utilities for visualizing e-commerce.