Matt Grimm

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Yeah, I think there's a lot of interesting and very challenging structural issues facing Europe. And I think fundamentally, again, it's coming from a very, very American perspective. There's an ambition. There is a seeking and working towards a better, brighter future that feels to be almost kind of complacently lacking.
from a large portion of europe and i know you said it yourself here in the uk as well and i think there's an there's an element of if we want a brighter future we have to build it and that spirit that drive i worry that europe's going to lost their lost their spark on that front what have we not discussed that we should have discussed or what question you not asked that you should be asked
The one I'm not often asked about is impact. And you've talked a little bit about this with a couple of your other interviews. Impact of early life and childhood on one's psyche and one's approach to the world. We get asked all the time about kind of the usual questions of AI and ethics. And of course, you can't go through any media engagement without talking about President Trump.
All of those things, those are pretty well trodden. But I really get asked about the other side, the personal side, the family side, the early childhood side.
So I grew up in the Philadelphia suburbs and remember constant friction between my parents around money always. There's just never enough money. There's always instability. I don't want to make it paint a picture of some sort of Oliver Twist here kind of begging for food kind of situation.
It wasn't that bleak, but I remember a consistent kind of friction around the direction of the family and whether there was enough money or where the next paycheck's coming from or whatever. whether we'd be able to make the bill payments. And I remember bill collectors. I remember like mortgage foreclosure notices.
Like I remember a lot of that friction and then observing that friction on the relationship between my mother and my father. And I remember very clearly this moment of, you know, one of these kind of arguments that kind of went sideways. It got a little ugly. And I remember sitting in my room, I was like 14 and thinking like, not me. this is not going to be me. This is not going to be my family.
This is not going to be my kids. Nope. Nope. Nope. That drove me through my early childhood career. That drove me through college. That drove me through my early career at Palantir. This motivation of just like, that is not going to be how I live my life with my kids. I'm going to be in a position where we're not worrying about those things. Does money make you happy? No, of course not. No.
Anybody who tells you money makes them happy is lying.
I think money buys you the opportunity to explore the world, to explore different interests, to have a different relationship to the world. Money in and of itself, no, of course that doesn't make you happy. You fill a swimming pool with cash and swim through it. That's not going to make you happy. What's going to make you happy is good relationships, good friends, good experiences.
Yeah. Did money buy her?
That's not true, and you know it.
That might be true.
I'll tell you an anecdote. Growing up, I had this fascination, still do, with fancy fast cars. I was one of those kids with the car posters on the walls, and my desktop background was a fancy Ferrari, et cetera. And I had this dream. I'm like, my dream car, you'll chuckle because it kind of sort of shows my ambition at the time. My dream car, an M3 coupe, this six-speed, really cool, like BMW M3.
And it's kind of this like road car, but kind of a race car. And like, oh, I could use it, but also it's super fast, super cool. And I had this vision. And then early in my Palantir career, I saved up some money, sold a little bit of secondary, had some good cash. And I was like, oh yeah, I should... I'm going to get that car. And then I got it.
And it was like, did this awesome experience of the European delivery, which I strongly encourage, by the way, it's really dope. And then got the car, went back, went back home. And I was like, okay, well, I guess I'm like, just back to work again, going out to dinner with my friends, I guess.
And it was like that kind of realization that to your point, not quite cheated, disappointed, maybe it's like a better word where it was like, oh, this doesn't actually bring me happiness. This doesn't bring me contentment. This doesn't bring me fulfillment.
What I think money does is I think it allows you some freedom to explore who you really are, what really makes you tick, what really brings you joy, what really is rewarding for you. And ultimately, like my quip about who do you spend your time with is like, that's really what life's about. And for me, granted, you know, you're about a decade younger than me.
But like for me, like that's about my family and my kids. I don't know. It's different for every person. It's different in every geography. I'm not going to put a number to it. I mean, you could take $500,000 and go live in many parts of the world and live very well, living off the interest on that and be quite comfortable.
And I know people who are quite comfortable living in a one-bedroom apartment and they surf every day. Like, that's totally fine. I just don't think there's a number at which it's like, that's the number. I don't think it's that simple. I think it's really about like, what is it that's rewarding for you?
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