Matt Jones

How this is gone.

And it is it is very eye opening.

And, you know, every time these emails come out, there's so many of them.

They still come out every day.

Right.

I think we've reached a point where no one's going to trust any of it.

Like one of the things that makes me sad about institutions crumbling and belief in them is you get to a point where nobody believes anything.

And that's a tough point to be in a society when you don't even share like basic facts.

Right.

You know, like there are people who still believe the 2020 election that Trump won.

The Russian hoax?

Well, the Russian hoax is a little different.

That's a little different.

But the 2020 election, there are still people who legitimately believe Trump won.

And there are still politicians who know he lost, but just lie because they don't want to upset them.

And that is a shame because objectively he lost by like he lost.

But they will not believe it.

And that gets to when people don't trust anything, that becomes very difficult.

They can't.

They Trump's hardest core supporters will not say.