Matt McCusker

And then after a while, you fucking get a little tough.

Like the fourth and fifth time, you fucking just give it.

Yeah.

They must have had a good exterminator around here.

There you go right there, dude.

Is that J-Rod the electrician?

shout out j rod the electrician dude if you haven't followed that guy's journey it's the best um but yeah having a garden doing things that build your own life up they give you purpose right that's the thing let me do something with my kids let me fucking uh look at this dead rat or you know what i'm saying but let me check out this dead rat space let me start a history podcast let me learn about journeys that were before me you know just i think we have to start to create our own senses of purpose we have to find new ones in our lives

Yeah, that's part of the trap, too.

You start to realize, well, this is part of the trap.

They want us to be upset.

Yeah.

There's a reason why they have all this information that's out there.

So much of it is still under control that there's a reason why this little bit and this got leaked.

And it's like, yeah.

I don't know.

Being alive is interesting, man.

I will say it gets more and more interesting.

Well, dude, thanks for coming in and chatting with us, bro.

Dude, for sure.

Thanks, man.