Matt McCusker

But yeah, it's just very... It was like the war was to stop slavery in South America.

And the dude's slave cut the guy's head off who was trying to stop slavery.

Yeah, it was pretty funny.

He was like, nah, fuck that dude.

Anyway.

But yeah, it was definitely a complicated time for sure.

Complicated time.

But that is...

It is so brutal, though, because you are trying to get the story, but at every turn, it is completely, like you were saying, you're rolling around with, quote, unquote, three women who make tortillas for 600 guys.

They're obviously sex slaves.

The guys, some of the fucking guys were probably sex slaves.

You know what I mean?

It's got to be somewhat prison rules.

Well, it gets lonely out on the trail.

But yeah, I just got to say the books are, they're nice because it is just, it's the story.

It's like the thing that happened based on all the historical record, which how, like, is that boring researching that?

Like, how do you get through that?

Because I feel like I would kind of go crazy.

Yeah.

I love that part.