Matt Murphy

and that is the current state of the law. Matt, is sanity a jury question? I'm sorry? Yes. Is sanity a jury question? Yeah, so California uses what's known as a bifurcated system, Megan, where first you have a guilt phase, and then you have a sanity phase. It's like a death penalty case. We have a guilt phase and then a penalty phase. One of my last murders before I left the DA's office was a case that was

It was my Nicholson case out of Newport Beach where a young, very entitled, very wealthy young man who was suffering from pretty well documented organic mental illness mixed with addiction got into it with his parents and he

He stabbed his mother and father to death in the house and he also waited for the housekeeper. That case just went to trial on October 31st this year. A friend of mine, I handed the baton to you when I walked out of the office, my friend Dave Porter. That guy had documented organic mental illness in addition to it.

But the bar is really high on insanity. And that jury found him legally sane. And his sentencing is coming up actually at the end of this week. So a jury, despite really well documented actual mental illness mixed with addiction, found that under the McNaughton rule, that guy was responsible. And I'll tell you another thing. What that young woman, Rami, saw when she discovered her parents, you know, and Art has seen these too,

Stabbing murders are the worst, because it's not like TV, Megan, where somebody gets stabbed once with a knife and they fall down dead. That's what you see in the movies. In reality, they die from what's called exsanguination. That means they bleed to death, and that takes minutes, which means they are fighting, they're running around. And the rumor is, this is from multiple sources, I don't know if this is true, and we don't know the evidence yet, and of course he's presumed innocent, but the rumor is that he cut both of their throats. And when you present one of those as a prosecutor,

They said while in bed, but there's a report today saying that they were found in bed. Right, but if you go back later and you cut their throats or you slash their wrists, and I've prosecuted those too in stabbing cases, juries do not like that. It shows a calculated, cold-blooded, premeditated nature. Even if the initial contact or the initial fight is spontaneous and hot-blooded, when the killer goes back and cuts throats, that is such a...

Just a decidedly vicious move. I heard you say it yesterday on one of the commentaries. Karen Reid was one thing, but my friend Alan Jackson has his war cut out for this one. And another thing is behind the scenes, I got a bunch of friends in the L.A.D.A.'s office.

He kertovat minulle, että Nathan Hockmanin yhdessä tehtävä ryhmä on suurin piirtein. Se tulee olemaan mielenkiintoista katsoa. Se menee kokeilemaan. He eivät pysty tekemään mitään. En usko, että Hockman pystyy tekemään syrjintäpeneeltä, koska se on henkilökohtainen. Kaliforniassa syrjitään syrjintäpeneeltä, johon on murto.

But you seek, we sought it, I was on our committee for 15 years, we sought it in less than 4% of the cases that qualified. So those are the special circumstance murders, which are a small fraction of all the murders. And so I don't think you can seek death. Which they are saying this is, though. They are calling this special circumstance now. It's definitely special circumstance. Multiple murder. They say it is, but I agree, that doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to seek the death penalty. They've charged him with...

Seuraavassa keskustelussa. Minä tiedän, että te olette nyt tekemässä jotain vähäisiä. Okei, Matti, sinä olit menossa viikkoon. Kyllä, katsotaan. On todella mielenkiintoista keskustelua...

with Reiner about Charlie Kirk. And it's, you know, he's asked about that, and he's known for... With Rob Reiner, I'm sorry. I keep thinking Carl, which shows how old I am. I know. Well, I mean, there's a lineage.

There's a really interesting interview with Rob Reiner, where he's asked about Charlie Kirk. It's something I think everybody should Google and see, because he makes a really good point of saying, this is a human being, nobody should die like that, nobody should die for their political beliefs. It's the kind of thing that everybody should listen to. By the way, for whoever wrote that Washington Post article, I haven't seen anything where Rob Reiner, beloved Rob Reiner...

The New York Times cannot get away with, he was just universally happy and sweet and joyful. No, there was actually a very toxic core inside of him when it came to politics. Go ahead, sorry for the interruption. Yeah, no, no, you're absolutely right. But at the end of the day, he's a human being, and he is motivated by what he believed to be right. Just like we all have friends, or at least we used to all have friends on various sides of this debate, right? And he's a human being, and he was doing what he thought was right, even if he disagreed with him.

And so was Charlie Kirk. And he pointed that out. So it's just, you know, when you look down and you go through one of these scenes and you look down and you see somebody who's dead, their politics don't matter and they shouldn't matter. And it's like we can't go through this filter or this dehumanizing description like we saw in the Washington Post. Matt, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but you know, Meg, I am like a little...

Well, he might, but remember, until recently, until again, George Gascon became the DA, and our friend Mark Argos got a hold of that case. They were convicted, and a California jury rejected all that. But the California juries are not what they used to be. No, that's true, but there's a blistering opinion affirming the conviction of both of those guys.

joka on kirjoitettu kaikkien paikoiden jälkeen. Kaikki, jotka ovat kiinnostuneita siitä, voivat löytää sitä online. Se vain poistaa puolustuksen. Kaikki sanat ovat, mielestäni, oikeita. Alan voi mennä siihen. Luulen, että olet saavuttanut huoneita, koska muistakaa, että meillä on kaikkia muita lapsia perheessä.

Ja katsokaa, se on yksi näistä asioista, jotka sopivat melkein kaikkien amerikkalaisen perheeseen. Mutta minusta on erittäin erilainen ero todennäköisesti järjestäjien, jäsenen ja jäsenen mielessä, mutta myös jäsenen välillä, jossa on joku, joka on syöttänyt organiattisen mielenterveyden, jossa se ei ole oikeastaan heidän ongelmansa, vaikka he ovat itse meditaatioituneita.

You know, young rich guy who has a problem with daddy. And I think that everything that I'm reading on this, it seems like the evidence is stacking up more and more in that direction. There was an interview I saw yesterday with Nick Reiner, where he describes himself as an entitled rich white kid.

Luulen, että se oli silloin, kun filmin julkaisu oli tehty. Siellä oli kuva, jossa näin, miten Nickin ja Robin Reinerin yhdistelmä tapahtuu. Se on melkein vaikea katsoa, erityisesti taustalla. Tämä on huono asia, mutta toivottavasti Gascona on tullut. Meillä on Nathan Hockman. Tämä asia voi olla tehty oikein, missä tahansa tapahtuu.

Not swinging. They swing for the fences. That's why they get hired. Well, I'll throw another one out there for you. That video that we saw of him walking outside the gas station, that's an area of Brentwood that is very close to a restaurant that we've all heard of called Mezzaluna. Remember that? You talk about crazy LA juries. Right. It's about a couple hundred yards down the road, and there's some great restaurants in there now. That's...