Matt Murphy

So that's where I was.

Yeah, so Ed Shin, as you can see in the photo, he went to UC San Diego.

He's a handsome guy.

And on the surface, he was kind of an all-American dude.

He had a very beautiful wife.

He had three kids at the time.

He was going to Disneyland.

He was engaging in weekly Bible study.

And he had parents who were very much devoted to him.

But he he had some sketchy stuff in his past.

He got in a big, bitter lawsuit.

He tried to buy a magazine like a collectibles magazine for sports memorabilia.

And that went belly up and resulted in a bunch of lawsuits and accusations.

He there was a really bizarre story.

incident where he may have faked his own kidnapping, trying to get money out of his dad, but that didn't go anywhere criminally because it was all sort of inner family wise.

But by the time he met Chris, Ed was working in what's called the advertising lead business.

So those commercials that you see at like three in the morning, like consolidate your debts or new hair loss treatment or whatever it is, you know,

You're old enough that you're probably not rolling home.

I'm old enough.

I'm older than you.