Matt Murphy

They became friends and they decided that they were going to start their own business.

So at like, I think they were 31 at the time.

They're the same age.

They started a business in Orange County called 800 Exchange, where they would set up these advertising campaigns and contract the various providers of this service.

These guys made over $12 million in their first year with almost zero overhead.

Right.

It was insane.

It was an insane amount of money, and they knew how to do it.

They're good at it, and they have this very successful business.

So Chris moves to Laguna Beach, and when I went to law school in San Diego, I lived in Laguna for my first four years as a DA.

So you've got a picture of one of the most beautiful places.

I don't know if you've ever been there or not, but it's got these little mountains that overlook the ocean.

Yes, I have.

It's where Timothy Leary went to college.

Yeah, it's gorgeous.

Right.

So it's a bunch of artists there.

And anyway, he moves there.

He is he's a fanatical surfer like I've been for most of my life.

And he actually lived not far away from where my apartment was.