Matt Ristel

So that's not a magic number that I'm not aware of.

Like the magic sales number.

That surprised me.

Uh, so, um, you know, again, that would kind of give you probably more information than, than what I would feel comfortable sharing.

Um, but obviously you're, you're pretty good at math.

Uh, I read, you know, two books a month.

Um, I, one of the books I just read recently, um, that was probably one of the best books, best book I've ever, I've ever read the change T sheets forever is, um, the lean startup.

Brad Smith with Intuit.

Oh, you know, no.

That wasn't a very strong.

No.

Well, what kind of answer is that?

I mean, what kind of question is that?

I mean, um, I studied, you know,

Brad Smith is a he's a he's a very unique CEO that has both charisma.

He has incredible attention to details and numbers.

But he's just one of you know, another one is Mark Benioff.

What's really interesting is that Mark Benioff really helped shape a lot of T-sheets in the very I got to talk to him.

He wrote back, answered all my questions, met him, really shaped the very beginnings of T-sheets.

Uh, so, I mean, we don't, a lot of companies, again, this is very different than I'd say Silicon Silicon Valley is that we don't focus on outcomes.