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Matt Robinson

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So I'm curious, what do you guys think was like diving into this was the most surprising conclusion you walked away with?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

That's been the focus, obviously, of Anthropic for a while and OpenAI has been putting its weight there.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

A quick note.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

But a lot of folks I talk to are sort of agnostic about the models that they're using.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

They'll sort of pick one out, use one here.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And then, you know, we had the market crash because Anthropic put out a legal plugin that was surprising to me.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So, and that's a lot of the conversation that I have with people.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

They're not sticking to one necessarily.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

They're building the infrastructure so they can swap them in and out.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So I'm just curious how, you know, how you guys think about how do you compete in that space?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

Yeah, that's my sense.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

At least I had a conversation with Man Group, which is like the largest publicly traded hedge fund.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And that's what they're doing.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

They're sort of agnostic and they'll sort of use it to power their, you know, how they're using it for, you know, investment idea generation.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

But as you were talking, and I think it's true, if you're a massive company, if you're 200, 300,000, are you really going to be

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

you know, you have too much on the line to be swapping out.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

You have all your IP.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

I think there's a whole other governance issue across all of these industries, like, okay, what are best practices for this sort of thing, which is still, I think, you know, emerging.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And so I think the, you know, man group is large, but I think it's a few thousand employees, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So it's not JP Morgan, it's like 250,000.