Matt Rodriguez-Payne

And he knows when Chelsea or Tracy has had enough.

Yeah.

And he knows when he's overstepped.

And he knows when he needs to offer an olive branch and say, come on, let's go for a walk to the pub.

And so he is utterly incorrigible.

But also, I'm...

No, God, I mean, I'd strangle him, I would.

But just to be able to listen to it from outside, I really enjoyed.

But having been, if I remember rightly, a bit cross about his arrival, I couldn't understand really what they were getting at and why they were doing it and what he was bringing to the show.

Well, now I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

I should know better to have opinions on anything, really.

I should just keep my opinions to myself for a couple of weeks and see how it all plays out.

And then, and only then.

No, that would be far worse, actually, wouldn't it?

Ruth is struggling a bit, isn't she?

And I have to keep reminding myself that this is an entirely personal matter.

If that were me...

I would absolutely want to know.

Yeah.

Because then you can start to take steps.