Matt Rogers

And I was like, this is, and I didn't say this to him, but I was just like, this is, it's like you said, it's like, it's not what his portrayal is as like this prolific songwriter and hit maker.

It's like, oh, he's, he's a, not to produce it, but he's a guy.

And in a great way, he's a guy.

Yeah.

I mean, the deeper meaning behind, the way he finds deeper meaning, like I feel like you have a sense of what your deeper meaning is.

You don't have to share it with us, but I feel like it's so interesting that you've in the past said things about like, oh, I wanted to...

to sort of have an inflection point after dancing on my own.

I didn't want to be known as like the heartbreak musician necessarily.

Yeah.

And you said recently, I think on Zayn, Lo, you were like, nostalgia is like a perilous thing.

Yeah.

Like a lethal thing.

But what I loved about the Brooklyn Paramount set list is,

set list was that like it just wove in like your full discography so beautifully and then you sang show me love for the first time in like what like 10 years great arrangement of it too so it's like I wonder like what your relationship is now to like the way you not nostalgia but the way you look back on your own work

The question was, how do you, but this is, this is actually dovetails perfectly into something else that I want to ask you about.

Nostalgia.

As a perilous thing.

Well, no, I mean,

Finish the thought.

I'm so sorry.