Matt Willis

And then, yeah, so I feel like I'm, I do, I'm exactly what this,

what this question is about, I don't feel great about it all.

You know, I feel like I'm missing a lot of things at the moment.

But maybe you've taken that from a kind of work perspective.

What about working hard on yourself, working hard on your mind, pushing yourself in the gym?

I think, you know, I've been very, very, very unhealthy and obviously I'm, you know, pretty healthy now.

And I think... I think it's where the element of high performance is to do the whole thing.

Yeah, but what's the difference in exercising a habit regularly and being addicted to something?

If you're exercising to remove demons or to give yourself calm... I don't think I ever say to myself, I'm going to go to the gym to get rid of the past.

I go to the gym because I like being well.

Maybe.

I don't know.

From time to time, maybe.

I think so.

Naughty.

Yeah.

Looking weak.

I think looking weak.

Also, who to open up to.

Embarrassment, shame and embarrassment, stigma.