Matt Willis

I think it's all very well and good saying men should talk, but who do they talk to?

Stigma of therapy, perhaps.

You know, it's about picking the right person, I think, at times.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah.

I kind of think that's a bit of a shame.

It's stigmatized, isn't it?

Because I would think the opposite.

I would prefer to go somewhere or jump online and have a conversation with a stranger who's a professional and then just shut the laptop.

rather than open up to... I open up to my family and people I love when I feel like I need to, but I still think that I would see the therapy as like a professional transaction.

Yeah.

You know?

And that works for you.

You're not taking any risk.

And that works for you.

You can jump on and you can literally just spew whatever you need to say.

And it's confidential, it's private, it's not going anywhere.

And also superficial.

You don't need to run the risk of... If your head's really somewhere a bit wayward, you don't need to run the risk of anyone having an opinion of what you're saying or taking it the wrong way or...

having it affect them or having them feel in some way responsible.