Matthew Campbell

Yeah.

So I think it's helpful to kind of put in context of like where I came into public health at.

You know, I started studying public health like maybe a year before COVID.

Then we were immediately in the COVID era.

And that really brought an influx of like, you know, money and funds.

And then I went to grad school during public health.

I mean, during COVID.

So it was, you know, there's this huge emphasis on public health.

And like, well, we can have some debate about how COVID was managed.

Largely, you know, we knew we had a lot to do.

There were a lot of

um, excitement.

Everyone was wanting to get into the field.

How can we help?

How can we, you know, that's when we get to see public health really shine in these times of like crisis, if you will.

And now we're on the other end of that.

And so it's such a, like a, it's, it's very interesting to see that other side and see kind of where we are now of, you know, how do we keep moving forward?

And I don't know, like everything, it's a tough time.

And as a, you know, a newer grad and a newer, newer to the field, it,

it's definitely frightening to see.