Matthew Cox

Well, or you're probably, if you failed a homicide test, you're probably going to get interrogated afterwards.

Yeah.

Right?

I'm going to try to sell you that car.

I'm selling jail.

I mean, I'm selling you a timeshare.

When you see a lot of false positives, there's a lot of, or when I say false confessions, they happen.

Okay.

I've had it happen to me.

It's awful.

What we've identified as, one, juveniles, their prefrontal cortex is not established.

If you start interrogating a 14-year-old kid and you interrogate him for multiple hours and you talk about him not being around his parents and you make quid pro quo statements and you start making up evidence, chances are, okay, because they don't understand long-term consequences yet.

they can have a false confession.

So promising things, guaranteeing things, making threats, not providing food, water, bathroom breaks.

You know, there's a lot of things that we really work on in our environment now to make sure we don't do those things.

So there's been a big sea change when it comes to how we do quote-unquote interrogations.

I'd be people's buddy.

And what I mean by that is it's an acronym, okay?

I try to blame outside forces, situational factors for why you did what you did, right?

I mean, if we take your case, I'm going to blame other things, okay, for why you made that choice, how you went from being involved in the industry to going to the other side, okay?