Matthew Cox

Remember, because back in 2007, 2008, he ran this bust-out scheme with the credit cards, right?

So that's another factor.

It wouldn't surprise me that the first time they heard about this is when the FBI was knocking on their door.

These people probably have a mailbox filled with foreclosure notices from the city who are taking action because of the back property taxes.

I mean, I notified plenty of people that they were victims of fraud that they had no idea they were victims of.

So maybe not the most sympathetic victims or victims who... Yeah, or... They had an asset that they really didn't give a damn about.

So...

The dollar amount of the loss for sentencing guidelines purposes is $180,000.

Yeah.

Criminal history category, bazillion, because he's got this fraud conviction, a federal fraud conviction.

He goes to trial, loses, represents himself.

Put that in the Matt Cox calculator.

72 months?

72 months?

Tell me how you came up with that number.

Is Colby holding up a – No, I did not.

Do you get along with other con artists?

When you were in prison and you met a person who was another prolific con artist, kind of going for the gold medal held by Matt Cox, did you look at that person as a twerp and someone that you didn't like?

Or did you have a kindred spirit with them?

You'd like to see some finesse, some thought into it.