Matthew Cox

And it's the same thing with communication is I learned, I didn't get that confession.

I didn't get this result because I did this thing.

And by having good mentors there to say, hey, try this, try that.

It wasn't until I went to the federal polygraph school where we had 31 different federal agencies, where we had subject matter experts from all these Intel and law enforcement side,

that I could pick a little bit of a buffet.

It was like Baskin Robbins.

You could pick a little bit from this person and that person, and then you could kind of mold it and put it together into one, you know, hopefully good platform that now we teach.

So I think learning from other people is a skill and realizing your own failures is a skill in your own vulnerabilities.

You know, the thing about you is you get, you get to talk to all these people and you get to see all these things.

I mean, you're getting like a neural input from people that,

Yeah, yeah, of course he did.

It was a super funny – But you had the unfiltered –

You're not getting true justice.

I mean you see – you said it yourself.

If I can close this case, the detective doesn't want the polygraph to come in and stand against that, what he said, because then the case isn't closed.

I think detectives truly want justice.

But if you've got somebody wanting to admit to a crime, it's hard to shut them down.

I mean, you even saw that in JonBenet when you had that person come over from Thailand and want to confess to it.

Right.

Is that ultimately the story unraveled.