Matthew Goodwin
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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Well, personally, I would want to focus on how we realign politics and save this country. That's where I'm investing a lot of my effort. I have a plan for that. I think I have something that looks pretty credible. I'm involved in the plan to try and do that. I'm speaking across the country at many events nationally. you know, alongside people like Nigel Farage.
And I'm interested in thinking about how do we realign this country in the way that Canada was realigned for a period of time, in the way that America is currently being realigned? What does that actually look like? Because for the first time in history, I think it's actually possible. As you and I are talking right now, Reform is number one in the national polls, okay? It's on 25, 26%.
It needs to really get to about 31% to win a majority at the next election. I think that's possible. I genuinely do. I think there's so much volatility in British politics at the moment. I think it is possible for this movement to actually do what the Labour Party did in the early 20th century when it emerged to replace the Liberals. I think there is an enormous opportunity
for reform to do that principally, but not only because of the mass immigration crisis. So that's where I'm spending a lot of my time. And the rape gangs is part of that, but to me, that's a symbol of the failure of our state policy of multiculturalism.
It's a symbol of the failure of mass immigration, and it's a symbol of this woke political correctness, the fact that so few people were willing to talk about it, that has created this enormous vacuum. that you're seeing now playing out in the national polls.
The Liberal Conservatives, I think probably many people in Britain would call them, or the Uniparty, they're indistinguishable from the Labour Party. Look, I think many people in Britain know, I mean, I'm friends with Nigel Farage. I've known him for 15 years. I'm very sympathetic to what he's trying to do. I speak at Reform Party rallies and conferences.
And, you know, I have a close association with the party because I believe fundamentally, political movement that we have that is capable of bringing about the kind of change this country needs to see if it is to be saved. And by that, I mean ending mass uncontrolled, low-skill, low-wage migration from outside of Europe.
I mean, fixing our borders by leaving the European Convention on Human Rights, by reforming the laws that Tony Blair brought in, including the Human Rights Act, by dramatically reducing the 15.3 billion pounds that we spend in foreign aid every year and making sure that our public services work for British people before we send money to China, India and elsewhere.
I mean, pushing back against the net zero policy uh project and i mean investing in non-london areas in places outside of the capital in plate and investing in people outside of the elite minority now i have come to the view the tories the conservative party are completely incapable of doing those things they they are the architects of the mess that we see around us today they are the architects
of our national decline, and the Labour Party is part of that. I do not view reform as merely a new Conservative Party. That would be selling it short.
I view reform as a none-of-the-above party, neither left nor right, as a party that could just as easily win over the working class in Northern England and Wales, in the industrial heartlands, as it could win over disillusioned Conservatives in the Tory shies. Look, Jordan, I'll be honest with you. I don't think... Nigel Farage has all the answers.
And I don't think the reform movement is the perfect movement. But what I think is that Britain is, for the first time really in generations, is ideally positioned for a full-blown political realignment. And I think Nigel Farage and reform are the vehicle that can be used to bring that about.
Well, the first thing I would say is congratulations, Jordan. You are a reformer. If you believe all of those things, then you share the platform of reform. And I look forward to seeing you at ARC. But in my mind, there are two principles that differentiate this movement from what we might call the Uniparty, in my mind. And I'm not speaking in an official capacity for reform.
The first is the principle of popular sovereignty. I think... Reform believes that the true source of power, authority, and legitimacy lies not with a distant elite, but with the people. I believe that ultimately, the relationship in politics that matters is vertical. It runs from the people to those they elect to represent them on their behalf.
It does not run horizontally from one group of elites in Westminster to another group of elites in Davos to another group of elites in Washington. foremost in the principle of popular sovereignty. That's what got things like Brexit over the line, and that's what will get many other common sense positions over the line.
The second principle that I think unites reformers and certainly is something I believe in is the principle of national preference, namely that in every aspect of our country, our home, I believe, from housing to the economy to our culture, identity, and history, that the people of that country should ultimately be prioritized.
That if limited housing is available, if limited places on the National Health Service are available, if we have money, we should focus on fixing our home before helping other parts of the world. That's not to say we don't want to help other parts of the world. It's just a about the ranking and the order of preference.
Those are the two principles that I think put the reform movement clearly apart from the Uniparty because both the Labour Party and the Tory party have shown consistently that they don't respect the values and the voice of ordinary people.
And they have shown quite clearly that they don't have much of an interest in prioritizing and protecting our home and the things that make our home distinctive, its identity, its culture, and its sense of collective memory or its history. So to me, reform is a common sense position. Almost all of its policies
from migration to the borders to the economy, almost all of them are supported by large majorities of people. And they used to be advocated by mainstream politicians. It's just, as I say, the elite class has drifted so far to the cultural left. You know, we had a survey recently in Britain by some social scientists, and they found that Labour and Tory MPs are closer together ideologically
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