Matthew White

So we do have some churn when it comes from the marketing agencies, just because the marketing agency has a regular churn.

But from our direct clients, SMBs, our churn is basically zero.

We really don't lose anything from the franchises, from the small, medium-sized businesses that we go after.

Come on, I don't believe that.

Nine out of 10 small businesses go out of business.

So I just don't, unless you figure out some way to arbitrage that, I just don't believe that.

Yeah, fair.

I mean, what we see right now is a lot of our clients aren't direct clients, right?

So a lot of our clients that we're seeing right now aren't direct.

And when they are, they just stick with us.

We haven't had a lot of churn from our direct client base.

Now, again, from the marketing agencies, they have churn all the time.

So we're continuously moving back and forth with them.

But every agency we have is growing faster than they're taking.

Of the 1,500 SMBs that use you, how many of those are under a marketing agency?

Like how many marketing agencies pay you right now?

Yeah, so I'd say probably, I want to say like probably 1100 of those are from agencies.

Across how many?

You said four main?

No.