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They never left. Do you know why we have the word eggs? No. When the German word is Eiren, it's Danish. The word weak used to be Wach. Then the Norse got here and it became Weker. Weaker. Weaker. They never left our language, our genetics, our archaeology. Everything displays that when the Norse got here, they never left. The Norse got to Iceland and they never left.
They never left. Do you know why we have the word eggs? No. When the German word is Eiren, it's Danish. The word weak used to be Wach. Then the Norse got here and it became Weker. Weaker. Weaker. They never left our language, our genetics, our archaeology. Everything displays that when the Norse got here, they never left. The Norse got to Iceland and they never left.
The Norse got to Greenland and some of the accounts suggest that there was conflict with the Inuit. But the biggest problem was that Greenland just wasn't a very nice place to live. So why stay in Greenland for 300 years? when every single generation is struggling, when you're dying despite having enough food to feel full, because seal meat just ain't enough. You need more than that.
The Norse got to Greenland and some of the accounts suggest that there was conflict with the Inuit. But the biggest problem was that Greenland just wasn't a very nice place to live. So why stay in Greenland for 300 years? when every single generation is struggling, when you're dying despite having enough food to feel full, because seal meat just ain't enough. You need more than that.
One of the ways that it makes sense is if you consider that they were coming to the mainland.
One of the ways that it makes sense is if you consider that they were coming to the mainland.
But where? I think that I... I think Lake Melville is a spot that would make a lot of sense. It is a natural harbor. It's very much shielded from the sea. It's green. I mean, you've still got foxes and sea otters. You can have river otters. You've got all sorts of pelts. You have everything you could possibly need as a Norseman. And you stay in Greenland? Why? So I don't know.
But where? I think that I... I think Lake Melville is a spot that would make a lot of sense. It is a natural harbor. It's very much shielded from the sea. It's green. I mean, you've still got foxes and sea otters. You can have river otters. You've got all sorts of pelts. You have everything you could possibly need as a Norseman. And you stay in Greenland? Why? So I don't know.
I don't I don't I just don't like that explanation. But, you know, I wonder what I titled the show, too, is like what would have happened if they had stayed? And I think that's the more interesting question, because if you look at first of all, I I don't think that they that you would have seen the same issue with illness that you saw when the French, Spanish and English got here.
I don't I don't I just don't like that explanation. But, you know, I wonder what I titled the show, too, is like what would have happened if they had stayed? And I think that's the more interesting question, because if you look at first of all, I I don't think that they that you would have seen the same issue with illness that you saw when the French, Spanish and English got here.
First of all, the Norse had a much more clean culture. And this is... The idea that medieval people and early modern Europeans didn't bathe is complete nonsense. It is literally just fiction. But... The Norse were a lot more intense about it. So were the Celts. Both of those groups, they were very clean. They bathed as frequently as possible. They made sure to wash their hair.
First of all, the Norse had a much more clean culture. And this is... The idea that medieval people and early modern Europeans didn't bathe is complete nonsense. It is literally just fiction. But... The Norse were a lot more intense about it. So were the Celts. Both of those groups, they were very clean. They bathed as frequently as possible. They made sure to wash their hair.
They took good care of their hair. Cleanliness was a part of life. And they lived so far north that a lot of southern European diseases, things that would be common with the Spanish... weren't as big an issue. They did not have rats on board their ships the way that you did some of these larger seafaring vessels that made the Middle Passage.
They took good care of their hair. Cleanliness was a part of life. And they lived so far north that a lot of southern European diseases, things that would be common with the Spanish... weren't as big an issue. They did not have rats on board their ships the way that you did some of these larger seafaring vessels that made the Middle Passage.
We also don't have any evidence that after these recorded interactions, there were mass die-offs of the native population. Some have suggested that the reason for the conflict was that in the saga of the Greenlanders, it's not red cloth that gets sold to the natives, it is milk. And one of the ideas is the natives all drank the milk. They weren't lactose tolerant.
We also don't have any evidence that after these recorded interactions, there were mass die-offs of the native population. Some have suggested that the reason for the conflict was that in the saga of the Greenlanders, it's not red cloth that gets sold to the natives, it is milk. And one of the ideas is the natives all drank the milk. They weren't lactose tolerant.
And so they had tummy problems and they thought they'd been poisoned. So that led to the conflict, which I think is considerably more realistic than the version given in Eric the Red, where they come by and they're like waving a certain thing a certain way. And the Norse hold up a white shield. And somehow everybody knows what this means.
And so they had tummy problems and they thought they'd been poisoned. So that led to the conflict, which I think is considerably more realistic than the version given in Eric the Red, where they come by and they're like waving a certain thing a certain way. And the Norse hold up a white shield. And somehow everybody knows what this means.
Like the world building in the saga of Eric the Red is terrible. Makes no sense. But I wonder, you know, if they had gotten here and disease hadn't been an issue. What happens? Because a big part of the reason that European colonization was successful was the inadvertent spread of disease. It wiped out most of the population.
Like the world building in the saga of Eric the Red is terrible. Makes no sense. But I wonder, you know, if they had gotten here and disease hadn't been an issue. What happens? Because a big part of the reason that European colonization was successful was the inadvertent spread of disease. It wiped out most of the population.