Maureen O'Connell

I'm really glad that Barry Weiss and CBS has remained firm on this.

We're not going to cancel Peter Atiyah.

by presuming that we understand what the whole situation was there with his wife.

That's absurd.

So I do think that's a great example.

Right.

Yeah, I mean, look, I will stress it's another case.

Gates has denied all of this.

And so I think it's just important to say we don't have evidence that anything in that email is true.

It does appear that Epstein wrote that to be in the voice of one of Gates' main advisors, somebody named Boris.

And he was getting Epstein's advice on how to basically get what he wanted at just a purely materialistic level from Gates.

So pretty tawdry stuff.

But, yeah, I mean, it did.

You know, we also know now that there were hidden cameras.

They talked and he talked and there's discussion in the email about him implanting hidden cameras.

I was impressed by how aggressive Epstein was in trying to get with Gates.

He also was advising Gates on how to, you know, raise money and have a donor advised fund and sort of trying to sort of coach Gates.

But, you know, that's another tough one.

I mean, I have a lot of criticism of Bill Gates for some of his projects, but I do think he's been, you know, at this point, he's been me too in a way that I thought we sort of learned that we weren't going to do that anymore.

You know, I will say, too, just on the issue of the grooming, and it is grooming in the sense that Epstein is grooming these young women.