Maurice

You cannot isolate certain, you know, public sectors and just lash it all at them.

Because we pay over the odds for a lot of stuff.

It hasn't worked, you know, in a lot of instances.

And they've been publicised quite recently enough.

So, no, I would disagree with that.

I think there's lots of layers in it and things can be fudged.

But if they're clear and to the point...

like show us the fees or the salaries or whatever, you can't deny it if it's on paper.

Well, do you know what I mean?

If it's exactly factual.

put out there, put all the salaries.

And I think anyone who's trying to get to a big contract, they need to say, listen, we have to publish your salary.

What, have you a problem with that?

And if they've a problem with that, they need to walk.

But this is how it is.

And you know what I mean, you have to justify your salary.

People in private sector have to justify their salary all the time.

You see, Meta, they're letting 300 and something people go.

It's not working for them.

So they're gone.