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Max Junestrand

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
624 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

A year from now, two years from now, it's going to be a really sad conversation.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So we invest a ton of upfront manual labor, time and effort in doing the implementation and activation right.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So I do think that's necessary for enterprises where you're changing the way they work.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

If you just think about a process, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Like let's say you're working in, if we're just staying in legal, if you're working with AI contracting,

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

You basically have a contract lifecycle management system.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

You just send a document somewhere, generate some red lines, and then you put it back.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

That's pretty easy.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

You don't need a forward deployed engineering or legal engineering model for that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

You just deploy the stuff and then you're done.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

But in our case, I actually like to think of it synonymous to the way that accountants had to learn Excel or architects having to learn CAD, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Like before you would actually go out to the site, you would draw

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

the building, and then you would go back to your office, you would do all the math, but now you just get a picture of the site, you throw it up in CAD, you put in the blueprints for the building that you want, and the system AI generates it, or generates it, and then you look at the math behind it, and then you bring taste and you bring design.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

When architects were learning CAD, I think it was an enormous change management.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And all the old architects would go, Harry, we're going to use that computer system to do the hard work for you.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And you would go, yeah, I'm super savvy and I'm going to get to spend more time doing the design or have creative ideas about how to solve my client's architectural problems.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And I think that's kind of synonymous to what's happening today.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Some of the things that we observed were spending a lot of effort on fine tuning models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

That always seemed to me, at least back in 2023, like a waste of time because the general models were improving at such a fast rate.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

It felt like we should be building boats.