Max Junestrand

And then when the tide rises, all of our products just get better.

And frankly, my initial team, we were three people.

We were three engineers.

The thesis plays into the team structure.

Right.

And we had 50,000 euros in angel funding.

And so it wasn't really on the question of let's spend $3 million fine tuning a model.

But it happened to be right as well.

And we always believed that the majority of the value in our category would come from the application layer.

So you think work being done to fine tune models does not give you an inherent advantage?

It didn't do that back in 2023 as a starting strategy.

I doubt that that's going to be the difference maker today.

Do you think models are plateauing in performance today?

No, I think Opus 4.5 is awesome.

It's so good, and it continues getting better.

I mean, honestly... How much better is it?

Well, it depends on the task.

In coding, I mean, I think it's gotten to the point now where I think you should just coin it AGI and focus on optimizing the cost.

Pretty much, basically.

What makes you say that?