Max Lugavere

But but what about I mean, there's also a slew of randomized control trials.

I mean, I think Kevin Hall was like instrumental in this showing that, you know, for somebody in a for somebody who is overweight.

I mean, you just put them in a calorie deficit and insulin sensitivity tends to tends to come back.

You're right.

They're not even getting the 20 minutes a day recommended by the WHO.

Now, what about the argument that some of the low carb community will make that it's carbohydrates in and of themselves that are driving metabolic illness, that are driving obesity?

Yeah, because I mean, the most calorically dense foods in the standard American diet.

Yeah, they're rich in carbohydrates, but they're also rich in fat.

Like French fries are not just carbohydrates, right?

They're carbs and fat.

Pizza, donuts.

I mean, these are foods that are rich in both carbohydrates and fats.

And so when you see people that say that they've removed carbs from their diets and they've cut out the French fries and they've cut out the donuts, like, yeah, you're removing some carbs from your diet, but you're also cutting out a hefty amount of added fat calories.

Can we talk about some of the benefits of carbohydrates?

Because I feel like carbohydrates are, they are often vilified, but there are some very significant benefits to eating carbohydrates.

I mean, you came into my house.

You're like, Max, where are the carbs?

Well, first of all, I...

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