Max Lugavere

Like that's what, that's what I've, what, you know, my kind of take on it is that it might not have like an acute, it's not, it's not like a nootropic, but it kind of like supports the brain when it's either under slept or, you know, in a stress stressed state as it might be, you know, considered, um, in aging or Alzheimer's disease.

Love that synthesis.

What's your current read on like the ketogenic, like the keto literature?

I mean, I'm not...

I'm not like a keto advocate per se, but everybody was talking about the ketogenic diet a decade ago, medium chain triglycerides and the like as a means of kind of, for lack of a better way of phrasing it, keeping the lights on.

I'm sure you've seen some of those studies utilizing intranasal insulin as an intervention.

How familiar are you with those?

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

When it comes to exercise, there's this perennial tug-of-war between the varying exercise factions, whether it's the endurance athletes or the cardio junkies or the meatheads, as it were.

In your view, in your reading of the literature, does there seem to be one form of exercise that's better than others when it comes to long-term brain health?

And it was just like in cumulatively just 16 minutes of exercise.

I don't really know much about the 4x4.

It came up recently on another episode of the show.

But it's four minutes repeated four times at 85% to 90%.

Whoa, that's insane.

The Norwegian four by four method.

Norwegian four by four method.

I can't imagine sustaining 85%, 90% heart rate output for four minutes.

That's amazing.

Yeah.