Max Spero

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The Vergecast · The one AI detector people actually trust · 16 Jul 2026 podcast

We also have like AI companies who use Pangram to make sure their data is clean.

For example, like you don't want to

pay an expert for to like write up some some data or

like write an explanation or solve a problem.

But actually, instead of doing that, they're just feeding it into ChatGPT and then sending it back to you.

So I think that's been a growing business as well.

Yeah, we try to bring Pangram to where people are at.

So like with higher ed, they use a learning management system called Canvas typically.

And so this is where students will submit assignments and receive grades.

And so we integrate directly into Canvas to automatically...

score assignments with Pangram and then just show that to the instructor.

And so kind of similarly, we work within people's like content management systems and wherever they work, we're trying to bring Pangram there.

I mean, I think the first step is always talk to the student.

I think the reason that somebody would use AI, it's like a symptom of a deeper problem.

It's either the student didn't have enough time to complete the assignment, they didn't feel like they had the understanding to complete the assignment, or they don't care about your class enough.

And so I think all three of these are something that you probably want to dig into deeper rather than just giving a zero.

I mean, I see this all the time where like educators, they get better results if they do something beyond giving a zero when they suspect AI use.

Because I think that doesn't really like solve the problem.

the core of the problem, which is that this student feels incapable of, like, producing an assignment.

I see this learned helplessness, not just among students, but even among professionals who feel like, oh, AI could write a better email than me, so why would I ever write an email myself?

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