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Max Tegmark

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

It's called mechanistic interpretability in GeekSpeak.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You have this machine that does something smart.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You try to reverse engineer, see how does it do it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

I think of it also as artificial neuroscience.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

That's exactly what neuroscientists do with actual brains.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

But here you have the advantage that you don't have to worry about measurement errors.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You can see what every neuron is doing all the time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And a recurrent thing we see again and again, there's been a number of beautiful papers quite recently by a lot of researchers, some of them here, even in this area, is where when they figure out how something is done,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

you can say, oh man, that's such a dumb way of doing it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And you immediately see how it can be improved.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Like, for example, there was a beautiful paper recently where they figured out how a large language model stores certain facts, like Eiffel Tower is in Paris.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And they figured out exactly how it's stored.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And the proof that they understood it was they could edit it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

They changed some of the synapses in it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And then they asked it, where is the Eiffel Tower?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And it said, it's in Rome.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And then they asked you, how do you get there?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Oh, how do you get there from Germany?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Oh, you take this train to Roma Termini train station and this and that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And what might you see if you're in front of it?