Max Tegmark

So it's very doable.

But you just need a public awareness of what the risks are and the broader community coming in and saying, hey, let's slow down.

And another common pushback I get today is we can't stop in the West because China is

And in China, undoubtedly, they also get told we can't slow down because the West, because both sides think they're the good guy.

But look at human cloning.

Did China forge ahead with human cloning?

There's been exactly one human cloning that's actually been done that I know of.

It was done by a Chinese guy.

Do you know where he is now?

In jail.

And you know who put him there?

Who?

The Chinese government.

Not because Westerners said, China, look, this is... No, the Chinese government put them there because they also felt...

They like control, the Chinese government.

If anything, maybe they are even more concerned about having control than Western governments, have no incentive of just losing control over where everything is going.

And you can also see the Ernie bot that was released by, I believe, Baidu recently.

They got a lot of pushback from the government and had to rein it in in a big way.

I think once this basic message comes out that this isn't an arms race, it's a suicide race,

where everybody loses if anybody's AI goes out of control, it really changes the whole dynamic.