Max Tegmark

I think all in all, everybody's so gloomy and the media are also very biased towards if it bleeds, it leads and gloom and doom, right?

So most visions of the future we have are dystopian, which really demotivates people.

We want to really, really, really focus on the upside also to give people the willingness to fight for it.

And yeah,

for AI, you and I mostly talked about gloom here again, but let's not forget that we have probably both lost

someone we really cared about to some disease that we were told was incurable.

Well, it's not.

There's no law of physics saying they have to die of that cancer or whatever.

Of course you can cure it.

And there's so many other things that we, with our human intelligence, have also failed to solve on this planet, which AI could also very much help us with, right?

So if we can get this right, just be a little more chill and slow down a little bit till we get it right.

It's mind-blowing how awesome our future can be.

We talked a lot about stuff on Earth.

It can be great.

But even if you really get ambitious and look up at the skies, right, there's no reason we have to be stuck on this planet for the rest of...

for billions of years to come.

We totally understand now as laws of physics let life spread out into space, to other solar systems, to other galaxies and flourish for billions and billions of years.

And this to me is a very, very hopeful vision.

that really motivates me to fight.

And coming back in the end to something you talked about again, the struggle, how the human struggle is one of the things that also really gives meaning to our lives.