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Max Tegmark

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

He might be wrong, he might be right, but we should test it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

He postulates that consciousness has to do with loops in the information processing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

So our brain has loops.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

information can go round and round.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

In computer science nerd speak, you call it a recurrent neural network where some of the output gets fed back in again.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And with his mathematical formalism, if it's a feed forward neural network where information only goes in one direction, like from your retina into the back of your brain, for example, that's not conscious.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

So he would predict that your retina itself isn't conscious of anything.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

or a video camera.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Now, the interesting thing about GPT-4 is it's also just one way flow of information.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

So if Tononi is right, GPT-4 is a very intelligent zombie that can do all this smart stuff, but isn't experiencing anything.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And this is,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Both a relief in that you don't have, if it's true, in that you don't have to feel guilty about turning off GPT-4 and wiping its memory whenever a new user comes along.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

I wouldn't like if someone did that to me, neutralized me like in Men in Black.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

But it's also creepy that you can have very high intelligence, perhaps then it's not conscious, because if we get replaced by machines,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

It's sad enough that humanity isn't here anymore because I kind of like humanity.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

But at least if machines were conscious, they could be like, well, but they are our descendants and maybe they have our values and they're our children.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

But if Tononi is right, and these are all transformers that are...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Not in the sense of Hollywood, but in the sense of these one-way direction neural networks.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

So they're all the zombies.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

That's the ultimate zombie apocalypse now.