Max Tegmark

You have to kill them in a different way first.

Presumably that scientific research boiled down to someone asked the lobster, does this hurt?

And we do the same thing with cruelty to farm animals also.

All these self-serving arguments for why they're fine.

Yeah, so we should certainly...

I think step one is just be humble and acknowledge that consciousness is not the same thing as intelligence.

And I believe that consciousness still is a form of information processing where it's really information being aware of itself in a certain way.

And let's study it and give ourselves a little bit of time.

And I think we will be able to figure out actually what it is that causes consciousness.

And then we can make probably unconscious robots that do the boring jobs that we would feel are immoral to give to machines.

But if you have a companion robot taking care of

of your mom or something like that, she would probably want it to be conscious, right?

So that the emotions it seems to display aren't fake.

All these things can be done in a good way if we give ourselves a little bit of time and don't run and take on this challenge.

Honestly,

For the past decade, I've deliberately given very long timelines because I didn't want to fuel some kind of stupid Moloch race.

But I think that cat has really left the bag now.

And I think we might be very, very close.

I don't think the Microsoft paper is totally off when they say that there are some glimmers of AGI.

It's not AGI yet.