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Of course, they're going to be discrepancies.

This is why we do it properly.

There are going to be very fine differences.

balances in the decision making process.

But I had to step back from that and allow my brilliant professional civil service to carry that out.

He didn't, right?

He walks right into the row and he fires Ollie Robbins.

And I genuinely think that was actually the beginning of this set of problems, not the end.

I mean, in terms of did Ollie Robbins do anything wrong?

Look, you've already commented on the fact that Emily Thornberry's

getting pretty annoyed that there isn't more stuff written down.

We'd like to see a few more notes.

We'd like to see a few more minutes.

Could you just tell us if there were phone calls, you know, who you spoke to, all the rest of it?

He doesn't seem to reveal the detail of where those records were kept, or he says that he hasn't got those records anymore.

And I guess there is still a question over, if he was doing it again, would he really...

Pass Mandelson?

Would he really have passed Mandelson knowing that there was this sort of balance of danger and that the vetting office was leading against it?

What would he respond to that?

I guess he's already responded.