Megan Abbott

Yeah.

Yeah, they do always do.

I mean, I always like the least likable ones, the ones that other people might consider the least likable.

Wait, who do you think is the least likable one?

I mean, I kind of, I mean, I love Pam, but she's a, she's a, you know, she's a complicated person, you know, and I love her ex-husband, Doug, who's definitely...

Pam is the middle.

She's the most contentious, I think, and the most divisive.

Deb has her own problems, of course, but I like larger than life women.

And I really like Doug because he's the antagonist.

He's the ex-husband who's making Pam's life miserable.

But

I never want any character to just be one thing.

So the more I started giving him other qualities and other sympathies, then I started to like him more.

Going back to what you were saying about the appeal of something like this, I read so much about women that become involved in these, like dozens of real life cases.

And a lot of why they do is not just the money, though that's

That's the initial impetus.

But they like the community and the connection to other women.

They like being a part of it.

I found that kind of moving that after your youth or sororities or even like PTA or something, once that's all gone, there's often not an occasion to be around other women and to talk about your stuff together.

And so a lot of them found that solidarity there.