Megan McCarty Carino

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Marketplace All-in-One · How states are competing in the data center gold rush · 16 Dec 2025 podcast

And so what do states get out of these deals?

What are they asking for in return?

We'll be right back.

You're listening to Marketplace Tech.

I'm Megan McCarty Carino.

We're back with Nicholas Miller, policy associate at the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Tell me more about the jobs issue.

What kinds of guarantees are often negotiated in these kinds of agreements or, you know, requirements for upskilling or training?

Tell me more about how that figures in.

That is such a striking figure, 20 jobs.

And I saw in some other figures that sometimes the jobs range, the ongoing jobs at these data centers range from 5 to 20.

So, yeah, I mean, I think that's just an important thing to point out in terms of kind of the potential for the local economies over the long term and the tax base, what that picture looks like for these localities.

And so even though these data centers aren't sort of bringing the kind of economic activity that might come with, say, you know, some sort of manufacturing facility, a factory or something like that, and they're offering all of these various tax cuts on different parts of the construction, it sounds like the amounts that are being spent are so high, in some cases in the billions of dollars, that it still does result in a pretty healthy revenue boost for many of these jurisdictions, right?

Now, you mentioned that some states are offering some sort of energy incentive.

That's obviously a really big component for data centers.

But I wonder if on the other side of things, on the flip side, are states limiting energy in any way in these agreements or making requirements of the kind of energy that these facilities use?

That was Nicholas Miller at the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Daniel Shin produced this episode.

I'm Megan McCarty Carino, and that's Marketplace Tech.

This is APM.

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