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Megan Samford

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CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

The second interesting conversation occurring in OT with use of AI is whether or not or should AI be allowed to directly control products in an OT environment.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

And so if we're following like traditional NERC SIP strategies where you have an electronic security perimeter,

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

Right now, most thought leaders in OT are saying AI is great for analyzing data coming off of industrial products.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

They can tell you when the products need to be serviced, how the product is performing, et cetera, et cetera.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

It's good data that AI can analyze for the customer's benefit, but AI should not directly instruct onto an OT environment and say, open up a valve by 20% because AI believes that it should do that.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

There is this principle that we will maintain in OT called human in the loop, where a human being has to review what the AI is recommending and then decide if it's appropriate to allow those constructs in the OT environment.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

So AI is coming to OT, but it's going to look different.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

So that would be my thought on that.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

Well, I really hate to go back to COVID on this one.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

But to me, I started to notice that the market was changing during COVID times.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

And a lot of people were nervous for all the reasons that they should have been in the world at that time.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

But people really were like, you know what?

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

I'm pretty happy in my role.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

I've got a good team.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

I understand the company.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

I feel like we're making progress.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

Where for most CISOs and other cybersecurity executives, it was like,

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

unless there is something horribly wrong here, I'm probably staying in my position.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

Staying in my position feels safe.

CISO Series Podcast
It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

And so there have been other papers and news articles written about this, but people that are pretty happy in their roles, I think are staying put.