Megan Samford

And when I've talked to other friends in the industry that may be looking or maybe they're impacted by layoffs and horrible things like that,

Everyone is waiting for the game of musical chairs to begin in the industry, if you've ever heard of this construct, but essentially in CISO world, if one CISO was the CISO for a large Fortune 500 and they moved roles, then you would see another CISO from another Fortune 500 move laterally into that role, or maybe get a little bit of a bump or a promotion.

And this game of musical chairs would start

And it only took like one or two people to move from these big roles.

And then the game begins.

And then we're all moving jobs.

And I have friends that are executive recruiters.

And they're saying, every six months, we're saying that the game's going to start in January, the game's going to start in June.

And the game just hasn't started in two or three years.

So

Again, I think for most people, if you're an executive, if you feel good in your role, if you feel like you're getting stuff done, you like your boss, you like your team, probably staying put.

And it is this attitude and I think this anxiety is why the game hasn't started and no one's moving chairs.

I think it's a great time to still be in the game of cybersecurity.

We all love it.

And thanks so much for having me on today.

And thanks as well to my company, Schneider Electric.

We want to be your partner for technology and energy management.