Megyn Kelly

Or a boy says, oh, I don't want to go play sports.

I'm kind of interested in these in drawing.

Oh, that's a very feminine trait.

It's such a regressive trait.

form of looking at gender dressed up as this very progressive and radical movement and you see that so manifest in the way that Elliot Page is lecturing us about what it means to be a man and also I have to say as somebody who does tend to have more male friends and who's always kind of had just like a general disposition to being more around men than women that discourse everything I heard Elliot Page say codes is very female to me which is so ironic like the way she's introspective about her

like that no men talk like that no men I know think that way or talk that way and here she is saying I'm a man and it sounds like a woman in therapy like a standard liberal woman in New York on the Upper West Side like in therapy intent like trying to understand her own shyness or inhibitions or whatever

That is so true.

Such a good point.

She doesn't sound at all like any man I know.

That's not how men talk.

No men.

No men talk like that.

Doug and I have an ongoing joke of, I'll just say to him, like, we'll sit there on the couch and I'll say, do you want to talk about our feelings?

And we both laugh because it's just...

I'm not really that way either, to be honest.

And he's really not that way.

He's a Presbyterian from the main line.

So yeah, it's a no.

And we just joke about it, right?

Like men are not like, oh, with the hands, my feelings, let's do this.