Megyn Kelly

I think we should be clear on that.

For Officer A, if the Officer A negligently actually did discharge the firearm, he pulled the trigger, they're not going to hold that negligence against Officer B in determining what's a reasonable suspicion that you're about to be hurt.

No.

OK, so what do you what do you make of what Kash Patel said there, Andrew?

Because Scott Besson said it too.

Like the I do think it's kind of the issue here is not that he had a gun on him.

Like this is America.

You're allowed in virtually every place, not New York City, where I spent the past 14 years.

But you're most places you can carry a gun.

including a loaded gun, that's not what this guy did wrong.

It went beyond that.

And by the way, the law is also generally in the Eighth Circuit in particular, an individual's mere possession of a firearm is not enough for an officer to have probable cause to believe that individual poses an imminent threat of death or seriously bodily injury.

The suspect must also point the firearm at another individual or

Or take similar menacing action.

You heard Dave use that term.

Was he menacing, Andrew?

And I think that's where it's people who reduce it to, oh, no, no, no.

He couldn't have been shot just for carrying a loaded gun.

That's true.

That's he did more than that.