Mehdi Hasan

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4,624 appearances 9 recordings 7 series first heard Oct 2025 last heard 9 Jul

Mehdi Hasan’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The Rest Is Politics · 552. Trump's Red Card Saga and Germany's Far-Right Machine · 8 Jul 2026 podcast

And you're right.

That is a key distinction between the first and second terms.

In the first term, he at least pretended to have some quote unquote grownups around, people who might know what they're doing, who weren't just MAGA ideologues or grifters.

You know, your Jim Mattis, who was defense secretary and a few others, handful of people.

I remember writing a piece for the New Statesman ahead of the inauguration or just after the inauguration in 2017.

And I called the Trump administration at the time a kakistocracy, government by the worst people.

And I feel like I was a little uncharitable to that administration because it's really this administration that is truly, truly kakistocratic.

Kash Patel, RFK Jr., J.D.

Vance, go down the line, Stephen Miller, just the worst people.

Kristi Noem, just the worst people he surrounded himself with.

And I said this when I was at MSNBC years ago, that the fundamental divide in American politics today is not just left versus right or up versus down, rich versus poor.

It is decent versus indecent.

Are there any decent people left in American politics on the right?

I don't see any.

Well, I didn't say I'm optimistic about the right.

I don't think they'll emerge on the right.

They'll emerge elsewhere.

I think the right is a lost cause, especially with the algorithm.

Yeah, so the big question of whether to interview him, to go back to our earlier discussion about election deniers.

This is so depressing, isn't it, Alistair, that we live in a world now where you kind of have to drop all these hygiene tests and walls as a journalist as I am and have to ask questions of people you don't really want to have to platform.

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