Mel Robbins

And that's where I hear the most amount of complaining.

And I was very excited to have you here because you've been at Google.

You have a psychology degree from Harvard.

You've spent five years as, what is the title that you have at Hinge?

Director of Relationship Science.

And just for you listening right now, who is like, okay, she's from Hinge.

So she's just going to tell me to use the apps.

Hinge is not paying for this episode.

Logan Urie is here and she is bringing all this wisdom to help you use it to your advantage.

And there are things that you're doing wrong on any online app.

And there's also things that you're doing wrong in real life that are part of the problem.

And we're going to separate the app from the real life piece of this.

And so first of all, what are you seeing when it comes to this age group so we can normalize people's experience?

So we're talking like two people ago that started basically.

Yeah.

And so we're still learning.

And the thing that you said that I really want to highlight

Because one of the things that I'm curious about, particularly as a mother, is the fact that there's a lot of blaming of the apps.

And I'm not saying that the apps don't deserve a lot of blame.

But the purpose of the app, as far as I'm concerned, is to actually connect with people